The Story Of Lost Vape Evolved

Thinking a little different here, I recently picked up the new Orion II Pro kit (review coming soon) and wanted an AI view of what really happened with one of my favorite brands Lost Vape. LVE appears to be UK based and only manufacturers three devices at the moment, the Orion II the Thereon II and the Bosen boro mod which is now a year old.

Quote from their web site: “We are a group of designers, engineers, artisans and visionaries on a mission to create elegant, iconic and timeless e-cigarette designs.”

Gemini said:
“To understand the story of LVE (which stands for Lost Vape Evolved), you have to look at the history of one of the most famous manufacturers in the vaping industry: Lost Vape.

Here is the story of how the company started, split, and eventually evolved into what it is today.

The Origins: The Lost Vape Connection
LVE shares its roots entirely with Lost Vape. Founded in 2014, the original Lost Vape team—a tight-knit group of designers, engineers, and artisans—became legendary for producing the highest-end vaping devices on the market. They were famous for being one of the first global brands to partner with Evolv to use premium DNA chipsets, and for building their devices out of luxury materials like genuine leather, abalone shell, and wood. This era produced iconic box mods like the Therion, Paranormal, and Triade.

In 2018, this core team designed the Orion DNA Go. It was the very first commercially available, high-end pod system. It completely disrupted the industry, essentially inventing the “pod mod” category and becoming one of the best-selling devices of its time.

The Split: Mass Market vs. Craftsmanship
Sometime after the massive success of the original Orion, a quiet but significant split occurred within the company, sending it down two distinct paths:

Lost Vape: Continued on to become a massive, global brand. They shifted their focus toward high-volume manufacturing for the broader consumer market, creating highly successful, budget-friendly lines like the Ursa, Centaurus, and various disposable vapes.

LVE (Lost Vape Evolved): The original core group of designers and engineers who created the legendary early devices decided to step away from the mass-market approach. They formed LVE with a specific mission: to return to their original ethos of boutique craftsmanship. They wanted to focus exclusively on premium engineering and organic materials (like responsibly sourced exotic hardwoods, genuine leather, and aerospace-grade forged carbon fiber).

The Comeback and Reclaiming the Legacy
After a period of relative silence while Lost Vape dominated the mainstream market, LVE recently re-emerged to reclaim their legacy. They did this by heavily updating the exact devices that made them famous in the first place:

1. The Orion II (and Orion II Pro): Billed as the “true successor” to the original Orion. Because it was designed by the exact people who created the first one, they knew exactly what to fix. They refined the chassis, improved the circuitry, bumped up the battery life, and brought back the interchangeable luxury panels.

2. The Therion II DNA250C: Eight years after the original Therion changed the box mod industry, LVE resurrected the name. They released a brand-new device that keeps the classic C-frame, leather-wrapped luxury aesthetic of 2016 but updates it with a modern Evolv DNA250C color chipset.

3. The Boson DNA80C: They also recently entered the modern “Boro” tank market with the Boson, continuing their long-standing partnership with Evolv to create premium, enthusiast-level hardware.

Ultimately, LVE’s story is about a group of industry-defining creators stepping away from mass production so they could continue making boutique, high-end devices for vaping enthusiasts.”

1952 – 1956 Lorillard / Kent Sold Crocidolite Asbestos Filler

In 1952, as concerns grew over the link between ṣmọking and cạncẹr, Kent cigạrẹttẹṣ introduced the Micronite filter, claiming it would protect ṣmọkẹrs. However, between 1952 and 1956, these filters were made with crocidolite, or blue asbestos, one of the most hazardous forms. They were marketed as a “taste improvement” and “kind on the lungs.” When asbestos was marketed to the public.

Gemini Pro: One of the most tragic ironies in consumer history. The sentence fragment at the end of your prompt—“When asbestos was marketed to the public”—highlights a bizarre era where one of the deadliest carcinogens known to man was sold not just as a building material, but as a luxury health feature.

Here is the context on how asbestos was marketed to the public during that specific window (1952–1956) and why it was effective.

1. The “Science” Angle

In the early 1950s, the public began to worry about the “cancer scare” associated with smoking. Tobacco companies needed a way to reassure customers.

  • “Micronite” as a Buzzword: The term “Micronite” was pure marketing genius. It sounded high-tech, precise, and scientific. It obscured the fact that the material was actually crocidolite asbestos.
  • Medical Authority: Advertisements heavily featured men in white lab coats looking into microscopes. The marketing copy claimed the filter was “made of a material so safe, so pure, it’s used to filter the air in leading hospitals.” This was a fabrication intended to equate asbestos with sterile, medical-grade safety.

2. The “Miracle Mineral” Reputation

To understand how they got away with this, you have to look at the reputation of asbestos in the 1950s. It wasn’t viewed with fear; it was viewed with awe.

  • Ubiquity: Asbestos was marketed as the “Magic Mineral.” It was fireproof, durable, and cheap. It was in tablecloths, oven mitts, hairdryers, and even children’s costumes (for fire safety).
  • Perceived Safety: The public associated asbestos with protection (from fire), so the leap to protection (from smoke particles) felt logical to the average consumer.

3. The Specific Danger of the Kent Filter

While white asbestos (chrysotile) is dangerous, the blue asbestos (crocidolite) used in Kent filters is widely considered the most hazardous type due to its needle-like fibers.

  • The Mechanism: To filter the smoke effectively, the asbestos was packed very tightly. This made the cigarette hard to draw, forcing smokers to inhale more deeply to get smoke through.
  • The Failure: As users inhaled deeply, microscopic needles of blue asbestos would break loose from the filter and travel directly into their lungs.

The End of the Era

Lorillard (the maker of Kent) quietly changed the filter material from asbestos to cellulose acetate in 1956. They did not announce this change to the public or recall the old packs, likely to avoid admitting liability. It wasn’t until decades later, when rates of mesothelioma (a cancer almost exclusively caused by asbestos) skyrocketed among former factory workers and heavy smokers of that specific era, that the full scope of the tragedy was uncovered.

Requiem In The House

Vandyvape and El Mono Vapeador (a spanish Ecig youtube ecig reviewer since 2013 who I never watched or knew about) created a cool looking mod back in 2023 called the Requiem. In fact he has a whole line of Requiem devices, atomizers, box mods etc. I personally don’t remember this mod and looking at youtube now dont really see many reviews of it. I do remember an rda of the same name in 2020 but not the mod. Anyway the point is this was recently found and purchased at Element Vape and getting the box, the label states manufactured 10/16/2023. So this can only be explained by the fact that it never sold out and some distributor somewhere else in the world had overstock that never sold. Why is that strange you may ask. Well, in 16 years of vaping, I have never seen this happen in the vaping retail ecosphere, that is all. I can only attribute this to poor marketing and advertising. Anyway, I picked up the “ultem” one because I liked the color combo better than the other colors offered, blue black, red and black gold. Its lightweight, nicely designed and feels like a high end mod. I do love the Vandyvape chipset. It has the full complement of features including 95 Watts, 21650, 28mm deck and usb C. Feels good in the hand and is well appointed. Glad I picked one up. Hope you can too before they actually sell out. At $53, its quite a bargain.

The Terminator

The Terminator. 12/14/2012. MSRP $59. Similar to the GG Ithaca, the Terminator was a not really a clone although some would consider it so as it functioned similarly to it as far as having to set up a NR to R wire to silica rope wrapped into a ceramic cup. It was much less expensive and probably made in Asia. It was only offered by one shop; Stormi’s Vapor Cellar I believe she had it commissioned and it also had a full compliment of accessories you could purchase for it as well. It was actually easier to set up than the Ithaca was.

The Nimbus RDA

The Nimbus 2/11/2013. This little banger was hard to get at first. Made in the Philippines by Jeyps Vaper and Saint Quii Vaper. You had to get on a batch list in FB to get one. It was a simple 3 post deck, If I remember correctly, the center post would spin after a while making it difficult to clamp/position wire mainly because there was no place to off set the pin with a screwdriver. A fatal design mistake. I paid $50 + shipping to the USA. They were all the rage for a while and later got cloned with a channel on the bottom of the pin for a screwdriver. I added a ppt file converted to pdf on how to build it with flat wire which was becoming a thing and silica rope.

Altsmoke SB and BB

The Altsmoke SB or Silver Bullet 9/18/2009. The second mod I ever purchased for $99 which was and is still considered a bargain. The first mod I purchased was a $99 510 Kit by Joyetech which was a “cigalike” stick that used a 510 atty. Thick solid aircraft aluminum, this was a trusty mod that almost never failed. After time the switch would wear out and Chad would replace it after you sent it in. After mid production time and the invention of the evolv Kick in 2012, which regulated tube mod voltage, Altsmoke offered an extension so you could use the Kick with it which of course I purchased for it. The second pic here details the rare dual atty top cap to be used with two 510 atty’s or cartos. Originally this was intended for a 510/501 atty and later cartomizers and carto tanks. Identified by the raised 510 rim above the surface for air flow. With RDA’s on the rise, you certainly could use them but you would still have a non flat connection to the top cap which would leave a space between the top cap and the base of the RDA deck which bothered a lot of people. Later, a second version of the SB was produced and ultimately failed because of the re design of the switch. One hack which was NOT recommended by altsmoke was you could fit two RCR123A or 16340 batteries in the tube to achieve 6 Volts output.

The BB by Altsmoke 12/31/2009. The third mod I ever purchased after the purchase of the SB or Silver Bullet on 9.19.2009. Later in 2010, Rob at Altsmoke offered a passthrough kit / adapter which allowed it to be plugged into an 120V AC receptacle to operate off of AC power at around 6V without batteries, hence the name passthrough. Yes it still works. Mr. Chad Dzierwa was the original creator of the both the SB and BB in Ohio USA. The kit with batteries and 501 atomizers cost $189 MSRP. The passthrough adapter cost $55 MSRP.

CASAA Is Folding

Dear Members,

Last July, CASAA reached out to our members and allies with an urgent plea for funding. We spent the summer and into the fall approaching potential donors, but fell short of our goal. In turn, CASAA continued cutting costs to the point that we were no longer able to support our small staff of two paid employees. Since August of 2024, CASAA is completely run by volunteers. We have secured funding to enable us to continue our legislative advocacy efforts until August of this year. But beyond that, we do not expect enough future support to continue in any meaningful way.

It is with mixed emotions that we are taking this opportunity to announce that 2025 will be CASAA’s last year of active engagements. While we will be ceasing our legislative advocacy at the end of August, our website, CASAA.org, remains a valuable educational resource documenting the history of vaping, explaining tobacco harm reduction, and celebrating the consumer-led revolution in adoption of safer nicotine products. CASAA will use some of our remaining funds to keep the website active, although we anticipate transforming it into a legacy site. This means that information contained on the site will be pared down so that the site will require little maintenance.

Although we have gratefully received feedback from fellow advocates and industry leaders praising our efforts and noting the significance of our role in the consumer-led tobacco harm reduction movement, those accolades are rarely accompanied by financial support. For the better part of a decade, CASAA has articulated this dissonance by saying that it is absolutely appropriate for businesses to devote most or all of their advocacy budget to state and national trade groups.

While industry support has made up a significant portion of our funding, it was never expected that shops and manufacturers would pay for everything. Being supported by our consumer membership has allowed us to remain independent in our policy positions and advocacy messages that support affordable and legal access to safer alternatives to smoking. But that independence is fragile, and we experienced the consequences from bucking the narrative of the largest tobacco companies when we opposed policies that ban sales of unauthorized products — products that still make up more than 90% of the safer nicotine market.

Since 2009, CASAA has been a tireless voice of and for consumers who switched away from combustion to safer, smoke-free nicotine products. We have done this work on a shoestring, which is a testament to the power of our stories. CASAA has represented our members in city halls, state legislatures, and federal regulatory bodies, as well as shared the consumer view at professional conferences and in the media. We have brought to our work the heart and soul that only comes from genuine grassroots advocacy. Consmers are being recognized as a vital part of the debate over the responsible regulation of less risky tobacco and nicotine products, which is a pillar of CASAA’s mission.

We are not making this announcement from a place of desperation or futility. This is not the end, but merely a step in the evolution of consumers’ awareness, acceptance, and access to safer nicotine products and a healthier future.

Thank you for standing up for tobacco harm reduction!

Sincerely,

Alex Clark, Executive Director, CASAA

The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives (CASAA)
PO Box 2991, | Plattsburgh, New York 12901
Question? Email us at takeaction@casaa.org or call 202-241-9117

New To Me

Engraving

Even though this mod was introduced in 2023, it’s new to me. I must have missed its introduction back then. What caught my eye was one of the finishes available called Antique Brass and Paduak making this look like a antique collectors item. Padauk is an beautiful African hardwood. I would guess that its not really hardwood on the surrounds of the mod but the actual engraving on the faux wood with its name looks and feels authentic. For the price of $45 for the 21700 mod and the big sub-ohm tank + two coils, you just cant beat it. The fit and finish of the mod is good and it feels nice in the hand as well. The large screen is a plus as its easy to read and configure. The locking switch is a great addition to it as well. So far so good.

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